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Thursday, July 30, 2015

Death Sentence for the Mess in the Middle...

  Mayor Mike Moore of Jeffersonville has declared the death sentence for the Walnut Ridge disaster of  of a landscaping job along the 10th St. medians. Citing safety concerns Moore says the trees will remain but the medians will be planted with grass seed. This puts an end to the foolish idea of the Jeff city council to pour more money into this poorly planned money pit

This boondoggle  "The Mess in the Middle" was an over priced, over grown mess from day 1. The BatBlog bids it a good riddance...We do hope that a good home and some use can be found for some of the plants as it would be a shame to just destroy them...Maybe NHBSM needs a landscaping update...
All it needs is a little Roundup

25 comments:

  1. Who is the ugly f_ _ _ _r in the woods?

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  2. Question:
    "Who is the ugly f_ _ _ _r in the woods?"

    Answer:
    The known stalking guy who is "lurking" in the woods looks like that strange character who oddly "sneers" at people!

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  3. Is he "lurking" or "lerking" in the woods while watching?

    The 'Urban Dictionary' has a unique and different definition for the act of "lerking".
    It could be most applicable.....

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  4. lol that's M. Hutt aka "the stalker" known to stalk local politicians and take hidden camera pictures of them a real weirdo.

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  5. Let's keep it clean posters, young children also enjoy the "award winning " BatBlog....

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  6. Finally some common sense, digging up that monstrosity of a landscaping job and resodding in grass will save millions in the long run.

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  7. Send Walnut ridge the bill for cleaning up their mess.

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  8. They can politicize it all they want the fact is it was a poorly conceived poorly done mess. WR and Julius soaked the city and taxpayers by putting in way too many plants.

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  9. After much complaining getting no where, Roger Baylor who is running for mayor of NA as an independent, took his own clippers to a bush blocking the view of a railroad crossing sign.

    Julius could learn a thing or two about being a public servant from him.

    Reminds me of the city of Toronto ignoring the dead raccoon on the sidewalk. Maybe we need to create some publicity over our cities and towns failing to do the important stuff in favor of things they can use on political mailers at election time.

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  10. Saw that! Go, Baylor!

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  11. Concerned Citizen.August 1, 2015 at 3:52 AM

    All dead possums/raccoons in Jeffersonville
    on sidewalks and in medians
    shall be removed forthwith.

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  12. A source close to the "plant scandal controversy" has informed the vaunted Bat Blog
    that there appears to be a serious problem with some trees at the Bog 4 Bridge park.

    An "independent arborist" may have found some mistakes
    with the plantings by a company that planted them.

    The Bat Blog source says that the city administration is looking into the matter and the Mayor is getting an official report compiled and may get the company to replant them.
    Mayor Moore is really on the job.
    The Plant Scandal is still "growing"....

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  13. So, the Bat Blog news flash update is that there are no known dead possums
    or raccoons
    found in the initial first step removal of the plant mess on 10th Street?
    Cool.
    However, the Bat Blog has uncovered that there may possibly be some improperly planted, stressed, and dying trees
    in the Big 4 Park?
    SMH....
    Maybe the Mayor should demand that the company responsible
    for this next plant scandal
    replace the dying trees?
    He is doing a good job monitoring both plant scandal messes.

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  14. Has anyone told the CCC that NO dead raccoons or possums
    were located in the first step of plant mess clean up on 10th Street?
    The CCC should know to help their mental heath....

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  15. Lol. Oh, yeah. It's our mental heath in question...

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  16. Yepper, it certainly is....and no raccoons or possums wuz injured atal
    nor kilt by the posters showing compassion for the poor CCC....

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  17. Cool Bat Blog Update
    Big 4 Park Trees
    The Bat Blog has obtained intel on the mayor's dedicated efforts.

    A letter will be released to the media, but the Bat Blog got it first!
    Reference to the city's request for analysis and help.

    Indian State Community and Urban Forestry Coordinator
    Indiana DNR Division of Forestry

    Excerpts from the letter:

    "Thank you and the City of Jeffersonville for hosting the Indiana Urban Forest Councils Summer Conference. During our Pre conference education and volunteer program at the Big 4 Park we discussed proper post planting care, proper planting, and removed stakes and ties from the trees planted in the park. During the program a number of ISA certified arborist for municipalities and universities across Indiana and I noticed that the trees we were working on were planted too deep and some were already showing signs of stress."


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  18. More on the watchful Bat Blog's Update
    of the reply to the mayor's diligent investigation and request for assistance:
    "We took the time to excavate the root collars of two of the trees as a sample to see how the trees were reacting. We found that the trees were already developing critical root defects that are commonly called circling or girdling roots. We also observed that excess soil was piled on top of the root ball, which the burlap was not taken off the top 1/3-1/2 of the root ball. In some instances twine had not been removed from around the base of the trunk. Without pulling back more soil and creating a mess on the beautiful turf at the park we felt fairly confident that it is likely the wire basket was left around the root balls of these large trees had not been removed or cut and pushed down into the base of the hole. All of the above observations are in direct conflict to the best practices for tree planting as identified by the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) for the ANSI A 300.6 standards, and are practices that are not recommended by the Indiana DNR Community and Urban Forestry (CUF) Program. In fact, any program receiving CUF grant funds for tree planting must meet all of these best practices to receive grant funding reimbursement.

    As further explanation to the points above I would like to address the issues with each of the observed inappropriate planting techniques."

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  19. "Trees planted too deeply: often fail over time within the first year to 20 years. It is very likely that you will lose a few trees each year, and that there will be no “obvious” cause to the trees death Trees that do continue to survive will do so poorly and may be nursed along by irrigation.

    Trees planted too deeply develop defective root systems trees roots need three main resources oxygen, water and material to anchor into. The majority of a healthy trees root system will develop in the top 6-18” of soil, and the roots grow in search of oxygen and moisture. By planting the root flare below grade the root system is compromised roots that should grow radially and out into the landscape (imagine the base of a wine glass) grow up in search of oxygen and uncompact soils. This growth is uncharacteristic and can lead to poorly formed root systems that many or may not enter out into the landscape, or that may be compromised and lead to future failure of the tree.

    Circling and girdling roots: restrict the vascular system of the trunk of the tree and often cause whole tree failure. The roots of the tree encircle or cross the main stem of the tree causing it to suffocate itself as the trunk and root system grow in girth. Trees with girdling roots often die slowly as parts of the canopy are cut off

    The DNR mission: Protect, enhance, preserve and wisely use natural,
    cultural and recreational resources for the benefit of Indiana's citizens
    through professional leadership, management and education."

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  20. Jeffersonville Neighborhood WatcherAugust 8, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    It looks like this newest plant scandal is going to pop also
    thanks to the Bat Blog.
    Maybe move this whole story and comments back to the top for better exposure.

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  21. ..."from the vascular tissue that support them, In worst case scenarios the whole tree can fail during a storm event or even normal weather. The whole tree will fail that the base with little if any warning. (Root Research Resource)

    Packaging materials not removed from root system: will inhibit and compromise a trees root system and make determining the appropriate planting depth impossible.

    If the burlap at the top of the root ball is not removed it is very unlikely that the tree can be planted at the appropriate grade. Opening the burlap at the top of the root ball and identifying the first main order root in the root mass allows the tree to be planted with the root flare at the appropriate depth.

    Through research we know that the hypothesis is that the steel basket and burlap will break down and degrade is false. Burlap can take up to 5 years to fully break down, in that time small roots can be girdled by the fabric and cause roots to circle within the root ball like a plastic container does. The ISA BMP’s that are a supplement to the ANSI A300.6 Standards for tree planting also note that through research we have found that the average basket lasts up to 30 years in the ground. Depending on the root flare depth within the basket this can have detrimental effects, compromising the structure and viability of the trees root system.

    In sort these trees were not planted in accordance with pest practices as identified by the ISA."

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  22. Recommendations for remediation

    It is my recondition, to ensure the longest life possible for the 100+ tree planted at this site, that a full inspection and correction of the plating depth of all the trees is completed

    o The root flare, as determined by the location of the first main order root, should be identified at or no more than 2” below grade. If the current situation of a tree does not meet these conditions, the planting depth should be corrected to meet these requirements, o All crossing and girdling roots should be corrected.

    o Any tree receiving substantial root correction should be re-staked using appropriate methods if the trees stability is in question

    Because of the potential impact to the site I do not feel re digging and re setting the trees with a tree spade is an appropriate method for correction. This would sever any roots that have developed out into the landscape, the labor to hand dig considering the number for roots we encountered crossing over the root ball and across the trunk make hand digging a time consuming option.

    I recommend corrections be made using an air spade or air tool. This tool allows the root systems to be excavated, baskets and burlap to be removed and root defects to be corrected with less damage to the establishing root systems. It could also allow for the root balls to be excavated and grade around the trees to be altered without using heavy equipment.

    At a minimum an ISA certified arborist should be providing the correction services. Ideally a certified arborist with air spade experience would ensure the best use of resources and survival rates of the trees.

    I will include in this email resources for your reference

    ISA Resources

    Planting Details and Specifications

    ISA Proper Tree Planting Power Point -Attached

    The Morton Arboretum on Deep Roots



    The American Standard for Nursery Stock Updated 2014

    City of Carmel Indiana

    Tree Planting Video - Please watch!

    Basic tree planting diagram Street Tree Planting Spec Wire basket removal and tree staking process Indiana Urban Forrest Council

    City of Indianapolis Specification outline-Attached Keep Indianapolis Beautiful pruning protocol -Attached

    If you have any questions please feel free to contact me at (317) 234-4386. Sincerely,



    Acting State Community and Urban Forestry Coordinator

    Indiana DNR, Division of Forestry

    ISA Certified Arborist IL-5450A TRAQ Qualified





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  23. Long time observerAugust 8, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    It is great journalism to see the Award Winning Bat Blog
    obtain this letter/email and get it out to the public showing the determined effort that Mayor Moore is putting forth.

    The Plant Scandal on 10th Street is a huge, expensive mess that is being solved
    and now the Big 4 Park trees are also in question. SMH
    Keep up the great effort.

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  24. Looks like the same poster, posting all of these posts. Shameful!

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