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Thursday, November 5, 2015

Missing in Action... NHBSM and Kruger....

NHBSM ???
Fellow CCC members seem genuinely concerned about brothers in arms CLICK HERE... NHBSM and Kruger both have apparently disappeared.

They been crying on the internet for 4 straight years after flipping on the Jeff mayor ...actually 8  years because they cried about Galligan until they flip flopped first for him and then against and now back for him....confusing isn't it....


 Rumor is they moved to Pekin (HT's hometown) looking for political positions...Pekinites aren't too politically savvy

Anyway I hope NH isn't in San Francisco as I found this photo from the Golden Gate Bridge the resemblance is remarkable.....

45 comments:


  1. NSBHM said he was going to take some time off regardless of won the night before the election.

    Kruger I couldn't say.

    My guess is both absences are only temporary...Whether that be a few weeks or a year.

    I don't think the administration is quite that lucky...They won but I doubt they go unchecked for too long. Lol

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  2. Maybe they have lives.

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  3. Hutts whole life is trying to put Moore down. That's sad

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  4. How is it any sadder than you apparently knowing everything there is to know about "Hutts whole life"?

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  5. It's great to have Jules back posting....

    Missed you Jules glad to see back !!!!

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  6. It's great to have Jules back posting....

    Missed you Jules glad to see back !!!!

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  7. All I can say about NH is whatever floats your boat but you couldn't pay me to attend all those boring ass government meetings....

    I did go to a city council meeting years ago to speak... Hell they don't even listen ...shuffle papers around play with their computers (government issued) and sit their with bored dumb looks on their faces...never again

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  8. And in Matt Owen's case endlessly texting...When he's there.

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  9. Will you all just leave the man alone.

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  10. Relax and lighten up dude, yeah I poke a little fun at NH, nothing personal about it.

    The same can't be said about his attacks on the mayor. His personal grudge/vendetta where he's used the CCC as his platform for four years constantly attacking MM on everything including the mayors personal life.

    Arguing politics is one thing but snide remarks about personal matters is another... and to make it an obsession with lies and half truths is another.

    Where I come from if you dish it out you better be able to take it...

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  11. Very good point. He can dish it out, but he can't take it.

    When I first started reading the Chatter, I held him in high regard as the community watchdog, going to meetings & posting on the goings on in Jeffersonville government. Unfortunately that changed back when he started bashing Galligan on a daily basis and then when his "man" won against the evil Galligan, he started in on Moore. I lost all respect for his opinion.

    I certainly am not missing his constant bashing. If Julius had won, he would be on the Chatter crowing about it.

    Just my opinion........

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  12. He sure didn't do Julius any favors by being his biggest cheerleader.

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  13. Farm Post Hole DiggerNovember 5, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    He attacked two different mayors incessantly for 7 1/2 years.
    The nature of the attacks was not of a discussion of issues
    but really venal and unstable. He bullied anyone
    who dared to express a different opinion.

    There is no way to defend his ugly behavior.
    The solution is both humorous and honorable:
    JUMP!

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  14. Both of them knew they would look like fools, after saying Moore would be back flipping hamburgers so they just quietly slithered away.

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  15. I understand everyone's issues with NSBHM and I've had my issues with him at different times too...But I don't think you can dismiss everything he's said ( as much as you might like too).

    He's not been wrong on everything and right on several things...That's with both Galligan and Moore...I think he does a decent job with his facts...The issues have had more to do with the different interpretations of those facts...Whether he was for or against whoever it was that I supported I've always been interested in what he had to say...I think there's almost always been some truth in about everything he's shared ( whether I liked it or not).

    Trust me, you all don't really want him to disappear...And the CCC definitely doesn't want him to disappear.

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  16. Rumor has it that he was spotted downtown, with a shovel, digging a canal.....
    When questioned about his actions, he stated that he was going to "save us all".
    Film at 11

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  17. Farm Post Hole DiggerNovember 6, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    "Trust me, you all don't really want him to disappear."


    Yes, it is better than he does disappear and stays gone.

    If a person intelligently advocates for a candidate
    or a position on an issue, that is one thing.

    However, SNIDELY belittling, attacking, and constantly trying to harm anyone
    who advocates for another point of view
    or for a different candidate
    is a major problem.

    He not only attacks the candidate that he doesn't like,
    he directly and very hatefully attacks others who support a different candidate.
    He nastily tries to block their involvement.
    He is a stalker.
    He bullies people.

    Explaining your points, articulating the issues,
    examining a voting record, etc., and advocating for a candidate
    is the best path.

    The practice of hateful
    constant attacking and attempting
    to harm anyone who dares to have a different point of view
    is why the guy has created such a problem for himself.
    He has created the backlash.


    Staying gone is the healthiest decision.


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  18. Rumors persist they may be headed to Pekin...dry land for Kruger and NHBSM can makes his pitch for a sewer water Canal to unsuspecting Pekinites...

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  19. I just carefully read what Farm Post Hole Digger said. They are right. NS was very nasty for nearly 8 years.

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  20. I have very often taken an opposing position to NSBHM and he has never been rude to me. I do tire of his non-stop negative campaigning but he is not mean to the everyday poster.

    This chick would miss his voice on the chatter.

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  21. I would hate to see NH leave as well, he provides great blogging material. I will say though after flip flopping on about every issue and candidate, and using the CCC for his personal grudge, his credibility is pretty low.

    He has bad mouthed the BatBlog but that's OK it's all in fun anyway. We have too many politicians and self proclaimed pundits that take themselves way too seriously, and if you dish it out you better be able to take it.

    Harry Truman once said: My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference.

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  22. Hey Anon.,

    I've been on the end of some of his "snide" remarks before on different issues and I never took it personally, not really...And I certainly never felt he was ever going to
    "harm me", in any manner...Or anyone else...Seriously??...The CCC is too tightly run for anything like that to ever go on...And I don't think HT or GAW would allow something that even resembled something like that either.

    I could name several regular local posters I've found to be just as "nasty" at different times as NSBHM.

    If you're going to go onto local forums and post with any frequency you need to have a pretty thick skin...And that's double for politics...I don't think Mike dished out anything that any of us shouldn't be able to handle or expect from someone with an opposing view.

    I think you're over reacting with your indignation.

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  23. Ht is right Hutt's "credibility is pretty low" It is zero credibility in my mind. Going back and forth on Moore and TG and he was the biggest critic of the canal until he started hating Moore. And Hate is what it is, it wasn't arguing issues it was venom directed at Mike M. as a person. He can stay gone as far as I am concerned and good riddance! if all he is going to do is shoot verbal arrows at Moore for the next 4 years and many ccc members are sick of him.

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  24. Like I said, you ( and your supporters ) need a thick skin if you're going into politics.

    And this is coming from someone who supported many people over the years who were on Hutt's radar...And not in a good way.

    But I never felt he should go away...Ever...And he "hated" ( your words) on a couple of people I'm very fond of...But, I defended who I supported and carried on.

    And I disagree that he didn't argue issues...He did it quite well whether you agreed with him or not...And a lot of times I didn't...But I always felt he presented his case well.

    It's like the comment the President made about the Republicans and the CNBC debate interviewers...If the candidates can't handle them how are they going to handle Putin ( as they say they will).

    Seriously I can't believe Hutt rattles your cages that badly...We don't live in Candyland.

    Some posters might be sick of him but the CCC as a whole will be much sicker if he doesn't eventually reappear. Lol

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  25. Wow, I certainly remember how much venom came out of the CCC for Galligan. My goodness, he was attacked every single day if I remember right. When you are in politics you are fair game, Mike Hutt is not in politics. If Mike Moore doesn't want criticism or attacks, he should have stayed just a guy running a restaurant. Just my two cents.

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  26. Yeah, I don't want NH going away, but he killed his own credibility by flip flopping back and forth. The tone of his criticism of the mayor made him appear as bitter old man with a personal vendetta rather than offering any productive criticism of the administration's policies.

    MM knows criticism comes with the territory as do most politicians, I'm pretty sure he places NH's criticism at the bottom of his concerns because of the credibility factor...

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  27. Farm Post Hole DiggerNovember 7, 2015 at 5:50 AM

    "Mike Hutt is not in politics." ?

    Some gentle notes to remind:
    Hutt has been as involved
    in the political process
    for the last eight years
    as anyone has ever been.

    He IS a politician.

    His NEGATIVE FIXATION is well established over a very long period of time.
    He attempts to block the involvement of others and attacks them
    for having an opinion differing from his own.

    His years and years
    of an established pattern of activity is long past an obsession.

    He constantly attends meetings of various governmental entities,
    stalks people, and attacks candidates AND their supporters.

    He attempts to stifle the opinions of others.

    He has posted on social media for EIGHT YEARS,
    making constant nasty, out of bounds remarks.
    If someone dares to have an opinion differing from his,
    THEY then become the target!

    He has run for party office, has been appointed to party office
    and governmental boards. He subsequently has LOST political races
    and been FIRED from governmental boards.

    He has STALKED candidates and their citizen supporters,
    taken their pictures while they were engaged in campaign activities,
    and then posted those pictures on social media in an attempt
    to ridicule their participation in the process.

    Eight years of Stalking.
    He stalked and politically attacked
    one mayor for four years,
    while supporting his opponent.
    When a new candidate won, he strangely and suddenly
    began attacking the next winning office holder for four years!

    The level of fixated nasty and unusual behavior
    against both candidates AND their supporters,
    over an extended period of time,
    is what rightly CONCERNS people.

    Trying to turn his venom onto others
    whom may dare to express an opinion differing
    from his own has a chilling effect. it is distressing.

    Attempting to justify that scary level of long term negative fixated activity
    against many different divergent others is difficult.

    It is not that people dislikes this person. It is his long term
    established pattern that is disconcerting. He has gotten himself
    into this situation by his own behavior.

    Attacking the persons who are genuinely troubled
    by his long term demonstrated pattern of behavior
    does nothing to address his problem.

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  28. Jules posted:...."the CCC as a whole will be much sicker"....

    Hmmm...Now that is a very interesting observation of context.


    ...lol...

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  29. Speaking of people missing? What about DJ himself? No message on his FB page thanking his supporters, nothing

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  30. Good riddance. Some of Hutt's rantings bordered on the pathological.

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  31. This was just posted on a Rival Blog in reference to the whereabouts
    of the missing "n-s":



    Hint: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!"

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  32. I feel I should open this with, "DEAR GENTLE ANONYMOUS"

    How has NSBHM ever ATTEMPTED TO BLOCK THE INVOLVEMENT OF OTHERS...?????

    As for ATTACKING OTHERS who DISAGREE with him, I think "attack" is too strong a word and even if it weren't, well DUH...That's what happens when you make the choice to engage in politics and on certain forums...And I'll reiterate that if he was truly attacking people his posts wouldn't stand on the CCC...So can we say OVERREACTION??...( If what transpires between Hutt and some others at times keeps them from becoming INVOLVED then it's probably in everyone's best interest).

    Again, don't forget I've been there since almost the beginning through multi-forums, campaigns, and candidates...Have had MANY MANY MANY differences of opinion with Hutt...Have been on the receiving end on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS of his "ATTACKS" but can say I never felt "ATTACKED" or felt I became his "TARGET"...I've never found him SCARY...Our exchanges never left me with a CHILLING effect...And I've never felt DISTRESSED by them either.

    I'm the last person who should feel the need to defend him but as you can see I am because I find the statements being made about him to be so OVERBLOWN they're RIDICULOUS.

    (Although I can feel the GENUINE CONCERN being shown for NSBHM and his "demonstrated pattern of behavior")...Yeah, right. Lol

    And if my defense of NSBHM is seen an ATTACK on others then I hope that they too never have to face the CNBC moderator's either. :)

    Is thin skin(ness) contagious and spreading rapidly through the administration and/or soon to be parts of the administration or what??...Sheeesh...( Judging by Noel's meme on election night probably so). Lol

    I get it..."They" want him to go away, and if he doesn't, to discredit him as much as possible...But if the things being said are true and Hutt has no credibility then don't the people already know it...Yes??...Thus the PROBLEM of Hutt shouldn't really be A PROBLEM.

    So have no fear...All is well!! :)





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  33. Farm Post Hole DiggerNovember 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Ah, the fishing is good.....

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  34. "But if the things being said are true
    and
    Hutt has no credibility
    then
    don't the people already know it...Yes??...

    Thus the PROBLEM of Hutt shouldn't really be A PROBLEM."

    Much clearer now...
    ;)

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  35. Once again, I just read the Farm Post Hole Digger's detailed background
    of the n-s stalker. It seems very accurate.

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  36. Jules said,

    "Like I said, you ( and your supporters ) need a thick skin if you're going into politics".

    I agree with your comment. Think you, based on your quote, could have extracted "Nice" from your CCC quote on the firing of B. Vissing. You didn't think it was nice and were being a smart ass. Thicken that skin Jules. BV was a Galligan Hire that Moore kept on. Let's not forget that.

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  37. "You didn't think it was nice and were being a smart ass"

    Caught that did you Anon.??...Although I think my intent was pretty obvious...That wasn't me trying to be sly. :)

    "Nice" in this case would indeed be referred to as sarcasm...Or verbal irony.



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  38. Quote...
    .And I'll reiterate that if he was truly attacking people his posts wouldn't stand on the CCC...So can we say OVERREACTION??...


    They were deleted about as fast as they happened.

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  39. "They were deleted as fast as they happened"

    OK, that may be true.

    But if that's the case, that means hardly anyone saw the posts before they were removed and are still basing their comments/opinions on the posts that were allowed to remain.

    And the posts that were allowed to remain were by CCC's standards apparently acceptable ( if not popular ) and didn't rise to the level of scary, chilling, etc. and all the other verbosity being used to describe his postings and actions.

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  40. Jules on Team Hutt. Who would have guessed?

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  41. I wouldn't say on Team Hutt.
    But, I have a soft spot for underdogs and can't help myself...It's my nature...You guys should know that. Lol

    Plus, I think all comments and assessments being made of him are so over-the-top they're ridiculous...Along with finding it incredibly amusing how badly some people want him to go away...That in and of itself will make me pull for him...You should know that too. :)

    If I've been able to take what he's dished out in my direction over the years I think the rest of you can too...It's not hard and in fact quite easy...So, buck up little buckaroo's...It'll all be ok.

    I have no doubt that if/when he returns we'll continue to disagree on about 90% of everything and everyone.





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