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The BatBlog has obtained a copy of the class action suit filed against Clark Co.
go to Drug Court Lawsuit
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I received an interesting comment from an anonymous poster yesterday, he/she brought up some good points that I would like to share then make my comments on it . I want to thank this poster it was a well written, thought provoking post, thanks again for sharing...
One problem for the plaintiffs, all were subject to harsher, longer sentences. The end result for these people is their drug court time was cut, their cases dismissed. Example, if the underlying fact is that Destiny Hoffman did violate the terms of drug court, then she rightfully was due to serve years in prison. As it happened, she did 5 months and is out from under the Drug Court obligations. So, how, exactly, was she actually damaged?
Second, Jacobi (according to the reports) is the one who actually started the ball rolling by asking Chief Judge Carmichael to conduct the investigation that revealed the violations. One assumes that by having the findings come from another source than himself he removed any taint of bias that Knoebel might have leveled against him that he was scapegoating her or firing or disciplining her for some reason other than gross mismanagement of the program that was, after all, her direct responsibility. One might reasonably say that Jacobi's only failing was not acting sooner.
As for the 'false arrests'. First, what is the difference to the person arrested if they were arrested by a policeman or by a Court bailiff who, technically, does not have the authority to execute an arrest warrant? I am not sure.
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So, what is REALLY going on? Some jaded observers can't help but notice that this all is emerging in the POLITICAL season. Couple things here, why does the PROSECUTOR get a pass? Aren't they the "Ultimate Law Enforcement Authority" in the county? The Jail issues a population sheet every Monday. Did the Prosecutor's office simply not notice these 'uncharged detainees'? Isn't the purpose of issuing that sheet so that the people who need to know (ie the prosecutor for example) will be cognizant of who is in the clink?)
The way this has been played out in the Media, the prosecutor and some others who one might otherwise imagine SHOULD HAVE KNOWN much earlier are portrayed as "Heroes". How convenient...for them!?
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Lawsuit is interesting too.....interesting that all those named ....do not include the Drug Court Board. Yeah, the prosecutors and defense lawyers and others who were supposed to direct the activity of the Drug Court. Weren't they supposed to be overseeing the Drug Court? Why have they been given a pass from being sued in Federal Court? Why hasn't the media even told us WHO they are?
Second, Jacobi (according to the reports) is the one who actually started the ball rolling by asking Chief Judge Carmichael to conduct the investigation that revealed the violations. One assumes that by having the findings come from another source than himself he removed any taint of bias that Knoebel might have leveled against him that he was scapegoating her or firing or disciplining her for some reason other than gross mismanagement of the program that was, after all, her direct responsibility. One might reasonably say that Jacobi's only failing was not acting sooner.
As for the 'false arrests'. First, what is the difference to the person arrested if they were arrested by a policeman or by a Court bailiff who, technically, does not have the authority to execute an arrest warrant? I am not sure.
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So, what is REALLY going on? Some jaded observers can't help but notice that this all is emerging in the POLITICAL season. Couple things here, why does the PROSECUTOR get a pass? Aren't they the "Ultimate Law Enforcement Authority" in the county? The Jail issues a population sheet every Monday. Did the Prosecutor's office simply not notice these 'uncharged detainees'? Isn't the purpose of issuing that sheet so that the people who need to know (ie the prosecutor for example) will be cognizant of who is in the clink?)
The way this has been played out in the Media, the prosecutor and some others who one might otherwise imagine SHOULD HAVE KNOWN much earlier are portrayed as "Heroes". How convenient...for them!?
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Lawsuit is interesting too.....interesting that all those named ....do not include the Drug Court Board. Yeah, the prosecutors and defense lawyers and others who were supposed to direct the activity of the Drug Court. Weren't they supposed to be overseeing the Drug Court? Why have they been given a pass from being sued in Federal Court? Why hasn't the media even told us WHO they are?
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First of all good post and I agree with a lot of what you said especially the part concerning the prosecutor's office and the Drug Court Board. Why were they seemingly given a pass in this whole affair ?? If I were the attorney for the plaintiffs, I would be including both the prosecutor and the board in the lawsuit. having them share in the culpability of the wrongs allegedly done to these alleged victims. Show the whole system from judge, corrections, and prosecutor failed to do the proper thing and were negligent. I would think that would only help their class action suit.
Where I disagree is you seem to minimize the damages inflicted upon the victims per your example of Ms.Hoffman. I believe she was found to have submitted a urine sample that was questionable, not positive. While not knowing the details of her sentencing, I hardly think that would precipitate "years in prison" as you stated. Also don't forget she was allegedly not allowed counsel to represent her and no hearing ever occurred. This is a basic rights violation.of rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Also we can't have just any bailiff or other court employees going around and making arrests, there is a procedure and system in place for making arrests and supposedly it was not followed in this situation.
Finally you seem to give Judge Jacobi a pass in this situation because he initiated the investigation. I' m not buying that, he may have been initiating the investigation only to cover his ass . I just have a hard time believing he wasn't aware of what his employees were doing. I think he may have hired the investigator just to make it appear he wasn't aware after the alleged violations occurred and knowing the story was coming out. I could be wrong but I just don't see an employee of a judge not following the judges lead on how to conduct and administrate a program like this.
I do have a question for our legal minds out there. If criminal charges are filed against any of Judge Jacobi's employees could he be compelled to testify ??? Or does his immunity extend to testifying ???
Also could he be compelled to testify in civil court ???
Who the hell sits on that board? Why does no one seem to know? Names would be good.
ReplyDeleteWonder if Knoebel would say. ;)
ReplyDeleteI agree who sits on the Drug Court Board ?? Is it someone in politics ??
ReplyDeleteWhy all the secrecy ??
News / Tribune the public wants to know...
The BatBlog will look into it....
I agree who sits on the Drug Court Board ?? Is it someone in politics ??
ReplyDeleteWhy all the secrecy ??
News / Tribune the public wants to know...
The BatBlog will look into it....
Generally there should be someone from both the prosecutors and public defenders office.
ReplyDeleteSection 13. Problem-Solving Court Team
ReplyDelete(a) A problem-solving court shall have a problem-solving court judge and a team approved by the problem-solving court judge consistent with this section.
(1) Each of the following roles must be represented on the problem-solving court team, but an individual may represent more than one (1) role:
(A) The coordinator;
(B) One (1) or more case managers;
(C) One (1) or more probation officers if the problem-solving court accepts individuals as a condition of probation;
(D) One (1) or more community corrections officers if the problem-solving court accepts individuals as a condition of participation in a community corrections program;
(E) One (1) or more parole agents or representatives if the problem-solving court accepts individuals as a condition of parole;
(F) The local prosecuting attorney or a representative from the prosecuting attorney’s office if the problem-solving court accepts individuals under a criminal or delinquency case number;
(G) One (1) or more criminal defense attorneys if the problem-solving court accepts individuals under a criminal or delinquency case number;
(H) One (1) or more local mental health providers if one (1) or more participants are receiving mental health services upon referral from the problem-solving court;
(I) One (1) or more addiction treatment services providers if one (1) or more participants are receiving addiction treatment services upon referral from the problem-solving court;
(J) One (1) or more representatives from the Veterans’ Administration if the problem-Problem-Solving Court Rules March 22, 2013
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solving court accepts individuals pursuant to IC 33-23-16-10; and,
(K) One (1) or more representatives from the Department of Child Services if the problem-solving court accepts individuals pursuant to IC 33-23-16-6.
(2) In addition to the members required under subdivision (1) of this section, the team may include any combination of the following:
(A) Any individual listed in subdivision (1) of this section that is not a required member;
(B) A representative of the community transition program;
(C) A victim’s representative or advocate;
(D) A school liaison;
(E) A pharmacist;
(F) A law enforcement officer; and,
(G) Any other member approved by the problem-solving court judge.
(b) The problem-solving court shall maintain on file a description of the members of the problem-solving court team. The coordinator shall maintain a signed a memorandum of understanding for each team member that describes the team member’s:
(1) agreement to uphold confidentiality requirements;
(2) commitment to the on-going exchange of participant information with the problem-solving court team members; and
(3) problem-solving court responsibilities.
(c) The problem-solving court shall establish a policy and practice of regular team meetings to discuss the eligibility, progress, sanctions and discharge of participants prior to the participants’ scheduled court hearings.
Commentary on Section 13(a). Each member of the problem-solving court team should obtain sufficient in-service training each year to stay current in problem-solving court related issues.
Commentary on Section 13(c). All team members are expected to attend and participate in the team meetings.
(b) Participants may not, at any time, be compelled to waive or be prohibited from exercising the right to counsel.
just look up Indiana Problem Solving Court rules. Ain't the internet great?
ReplyDeleteI did find an old copy of the Clark Co. Drug court advisory board last updated in 2011....mysteriously the updated version wasn't available...
ReplyDeleteSince I have no idea if those members still serve on the board I won't print it.
One member it seems, of the dated list was Barbara Hollis VP of the Clark Co. Council, and Judge Vicky Carmichael but I have no idea if they still serve on the board....
Perhaps someone should ask them.
ReplyDeleteWe can look up descriptions of the types of members who should be on the board all day. That doesn't give us names. Google isn't cutting it, and we apparently the reporters around here lack curiosity.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the above rules, they have to maintain a written list.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure the people on the Drug Advisory Board are staying pretty low key on this, considering all the controversy.
ReplyDeleteLike most government boards a lot of people (not all) sit on them to make themselves feel important.
They obviously dropped the ball on this just like a lot of others involved.
Come on N/T, Courier Journal, WHAS inquiring minds would like to know ...
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20140227/NEWS02/302270085/Fate-participants-suspended-Clark-County-Drug-Court-question
ReplyDeleteMembers of the “drug court team” allowed to make recommendations for program participants included: Jacobi, Magistrate William Dawkins, Drug Court Coordinator Susan Knoebel, a defense attorney, two probation office case managers, a Charlestown assistant police chief, a psychologist, a representative from Centerstone Inc., a representative from Life Improvement Counseling Center, a representative from Bliss House treatment facility and a community liaison.
Thanks again Tina I've put up a new post using your link...
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