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| Kevin Jong Baily wants 1 1/2 million or flooding will occur. |
Clarksville leader Kevin Jong Baity has given the city of Jeffersonville a little more time in his extortion attempt to relieve the City of Jeff of 1 1/2 million dollars to pay for a C'ville flooding project. CLICK HERE FOR STORY Jong's original threat had a deadline of Mar.1 before Clarksville was to put in place a plan to flood downtown Jeffersonville in retaliation for not paying the 1 1/2 mil ransom. General and mayor Mike "Blood and Guts" Moore has refused to bow to Jong Bailey's threats and in the N/T article said ... "My dad always told me to stand up to bullies, so I guess that's about to happen,"
As it now stands both leaders have drawn a line in the sand refusing to back down. The BatBlog believes that Jong Bailey was given an intelligence briefing that informed him that in retaliation Jeff and former Navy Seal HT were considering a counter attack operation to take out Clarksville's historical landmark and culture and arts center Theatair X... if Jeff was attacked with flood waters.
It appears depriving Clarksvillians of their main source of culture and entertainment would be too big a risk for Jong and he his in a quandary as to his next step forward to extort Jeffersonville; thereby the delay. The BatBlog advises all downtown residents to be on high alert as Jong Baity appears to be as unstable as his idol Kim Jung and flood waters coming from C'ville may be imminent.
If attacked HT has informed mayor/general Moore that all he needs is the word and Theatair X is history. Top Secret counter measures include rerouting Jeff sewers directly into Theatair X and flooding it out is being seriously considered. The facility (Theatair X) is rumored to hold a hidden war bunker where Jong Baity and his town council will occupy if hostilities begin. HT has also informed Moore that if necessary one well placed bazooka round will reduce Theatair X and C'villes headquarters to rubble...
Stay alert and be prepared...war may be brewing....Semper Fi
Thank you for you service ht!
ReplyDeleteSemper Fi !!!
ReplyDeleteGood work HT! (as opposed to the abysmal reporting on the Clark Dem election of Rodriquez as Chair).
ReplyDeleteThe Goliath plan:
1. Pour molten concrete into all the sewer outlets from which the backed up water supposedly
would spill out the Clarksville water to flood 10th street.
2. Erect barricades at the Jeff-Clarksville boundaries. Cutting off All Clarksville access to the Falls of the Ohio Center, Stansifer avenue, and all other Clarksville accesses points from the beloved Jeffersonville confines.
3. Trade embargo on lawyers. No Jeff located lawyers will be allowed to travel to Clarksville or work on 'court pleadings'. Fifer, Sturgeon etc., will have hands tied behind back.
4. Send a JPD force in to occupy the George Rogers Clark homesite. (only actual point of pride for Clarksville).
5. Since Cville town board passed a 'guns are allowed' ordinance, make sure to send in teams of heavily and openly armed Jeff partisans to all Clarksville civic meetings. I am talking AKs and bandoleros. OPEN CARRY.
Barricades ? Build the wall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteGood ideas G. and be prepared your shyster lawyer could be in harm's way from flood waters rolling down Spring St....
DeleteOn a side note HT's coverage of Dem. caucus is reportedly up for a Pulitzer prize...
Trump just sent me a twitter Private Message describing this story as the worst example of "FAKE NEWS". HT is "enemy of the PEOPLE". Sorry HT. NSA about to go nuclear on the Batblog. DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!
Delete1. Good idea
Delete2. That's fine. I know all the ways around them.
3. Barricades need to be erected while Fifer and Sturgeon are in Clarksville.
4. You're forgetting Bass Pro and Theatair X.
5. Very good idea.
"3. Barricades
Deleteneed to be erected
while Fifer and Sturgeon are in Clarksville."
So, subsequently, if the Wall
is built to protect Jeffersonville
from Clarksville, then the Aforementioned Legal Eagles
are enjoined from re-entering Jeffersonville from
the "Downhill Flooded Ditch
State of Clarksville".
Their currently issued temporary
resident visas could be revoked by the Jeffersonville
State Department and Wall Security Offices?
Correct.
DeleteReally, it actually would be so great if Jeff sent in a bunch of hooligans or, on the other hand, cops and firemen, heavily armed to just stand there at Cville town board meetings.
ReplyDeleteSee how that goes over.
Don't make me go "Jeff" on you. They picked the wrong city to push around.
ReplyDeleteMike Moore
Right On Mayor/ General Moore !!! just give me the word to attack I am on high alert and ready to go ...Semper Fi...
DeleteNever been a big Moore fan, but just gained some respect for him after this public threat by the seven horsemen and their six figure henchman. Where do these idiots get off threatening our neighbors for not wanting to pay for their problems and screw ups ? Keep up the good work Mike Moore defending your city.
ReplyDeleteLike Gen. Moore stated "they picked the wrong city to push around." They better turn to Charlestown, Hibernia , or Otisco for their extortion tactics...Even Pekin would kick their scrawny ass if threatened like this...
DeleteChronic flooding occurs in South Clarksville when the river is above flood stage due to improper design of Flood Control's Cane Run pump station. FC's records since at least 1962 demonstrate that pump station improvements to eliminate resultant damages to properties within the FC district are needed. 40% of the FC district's assessed value come from properties in Clarksville.
ReplyDeleteClarksville has determined to eliminate these flooding problems one way or another, and it has every legal right to do so (Indiana follows the Common Enemy Doctrine with respect to surface water drainage per Argyelan v. Haviland, 435 N.E.2d 973 (Ind. 1982)). For approximately $1.5 million it can separate its stormwater drainage from FC's 96-inch pipe running from the Tenth Street Pump Station in Jeffersonville to the Cane Run drainage basin between the river and South Clark Boulevard, but the next lowest opening served by this pipe is likely in the area of the Tenth & Spring intersection (i.e., water might then surcharge from this pipe into Jeffersonville in the manner that it now does in Clarksville). Clarksville has accordingly offered to contribute this same $1.5 million towards the Cane Rune pump station improvements that would also eliminate these flooding problems, but without potential of adverse effect to Jeffersonville.
As I advised the City Council, if Clarksville has to construct its stormwater separation project to prevent the flooding problems that FC is legally obligated to prevent, FC and/or Jeffersonville may still have to construct the Cane Run pump station improvements to remove stormwater from Jeffersonville, but they will then be doing so without Clarksville's generous contribution.
My Dad always told me not to suffer fools gladly ...
Go ahead and flood Jeffersonville and suffer the consequences...
DeleteYour beloved Theatair X will be reduced to rubble...
You have been warned !!!
Take note citizens of Jeffersonville and General Moore, Jong Baity's official mouthpiece is throwing out more idle threats against our city and called our leader a "fool".
DeleteBe prepared war seems imminent...We have manned our battle stations and are ready to move...
See note above on point 3 of Goliath's plan.
DeleteFor those unaware Curmudgeon is Greg Fifer Clarksville city attorney and formerly one of Galligan's Goons.
DeleteNormally I wouldn't allow outing someone's identity but in this case I think it is common knowledge who Mr. Roger is like Goliath...
DeleteIf Mr.Fifer has a problem with it I can delete the post otherwise for the sake of discussion I will allow it to stay....
That's Mr. Fifer not Mr
DeleteRogers lol...
Looks like Fifer is going to try his case over the internet, classy move Mr. Fifer.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a "case" to try over the internet or otherwise as Clarksville has not in any manner threatened litigation against Jeffersonville. Nor has it ever threatened to intentionally flood Jeffersonville as has erroneously been claimed.
ReplyDeleteSpin it anyway you want, Clarksville Town manager Baity has threatened the city of Jeff. Quote from the article taken from the meeting.
Delete"Whether or not it has to come back in the future will be determined by [Jeffersonville officials'] action," Town Manager Kevin Baity said.
The alternative plan is to install a separate drainage line and seal off storm drains near the south end of town, which overflow during heavy rainfall. With no other outlet, officials say the only place for water to back up is in Jeffersonville near 10th Street and Interstate 65. "
Agreed, the sealing off part is what Jeffersonville has a problem with. Why seal off the storm drains? causing flooding in Jeff.
DeleteIf you have flooding fix the damn thing!
Clarksville needs to do what Galligan did to finance his still non existent Canal....Just quadruple sewer bills ..Problem solved and your flooding problem solved..
DeleteI don't have any problem with being identified. If I had wanted to be anonymous I would have changed my screen name.
ReplyDeleteSince identities are coming out, who is HT?
ReplyDeleteI have my suspicions.
Well spit it out Anon. the whole world is waiting...
DeleteDon't know what that Anon thinks but this Anon has often wondered if it's not a man named Bruce under the mask. Last name starting with an H.
DeleteLet everybody know what the H stands for Anon. the whole world's waiting...
DeleteHerdt
DeleteGreg Fifer and Chris Sturgeon
ReplyDeleteare great lawyers, but Goliath's Shyster lawyer
(The feared GSL) makes them quake! I think the GSL
first had cases with them back in the early days of the Roman Empire....
Curmudgeon said "My Dad always told me not to suffer fools gladly" ...
We hear you on that, bro! Curmudgeon's Dad was a real
Bad A** for sure!
Fifer's been living in the shadow of his old man his whole life. His dad use to tell me his son couldn't catch a parked ambulance.
ReplyDeleteThat is Fake.
DeleteRon appreciates
his son and the great lawyer that he is.
Right Greg
DeletePerhaps true -- but I am fully confident I can give Clarksville competent legal advice that will enable it to finally eliminate chronic flooding that it is not obligated to tolerate,
DeleteHow is flooding a legal problem? I would think this is an engineering problem and what gives you the right to "seal off" pipes that will cause flooding in another city? Surely there is an alternate solution that doesn't involve Jeff.
DeleteThe Common Enemy Doctrine provides that a land owner may do whatever it wishes to protect itself from surface water drainage without legal obligation to its neighbors from the resultant effects. The sole exception is that an owner cannot capture surface water drainage and cast it in a body onto an adjoining property. The separation of Clarksville's drain lines from Flood Control's 96-inch pipe in what was previously Cane Run would not violate this exception.
DeleteThe sole alternative is the improvements that are needed to FC's Cane Run Pump Station that would allow water to be pumped over the floodwall to the river when it is above flood stage before flooding occurs in Clarksville. If FC makes these improvements (either with or without financial contribution from Clarksville and Jeffersonville), problem solved.
Just to be sure you understand, Anon -- the alternative separation project would require Clarksville to construct a new pipe dedicated solely to handling Clarksville drainage. The catch basins in Clarksville from which the flooding now surcharges when the river is above flood stage will remain in place -- they just won't be connected to FC's 96-inch pipe that causes the surcharging and flooding in Clarksville. Clarksville has no legal obligation to have them remain connected to the FC pipe.
DeleteOrder by the Bat Blog Court
Delete"The sole exception
is that an owner cannot
capture surface water drainage
and cast it in a body onto an adjoining property."
Cool, bro.
Motion hereby granted
for Jeffersonville's immediate relief
from Clarksville's reckless action
and permanent injunction
granted to protect
Jeffersonville citizens from Clarksville's politicians.
Clarksville is ordered to "Unblock the Dern Drains"
and let the water flow naturally DOWNHILL.
Clarksville is ordered
to not take any action that doth "Catch and Cast"
said "Captured Surface Water" onto Jeffersonville.
The politicos
are herby ordered
to cease and desist
and "Unblock the Dern Drains"
to "Drain Clarksville's Swamp"!
Bat Blog Court
DeleteMotion for Discovery
"Conspiratorial Confluence"
The politicos of Clarksville
have discovered the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers
are joining in a "Conspiratorial Confluence"
at Pittsburg, Pennsylvania,
to form one said Mighty
Ohio River.
The Clarksville politicos and legal beagles
want to know why said "Combination Water Flow River",
which is driven by pesky rain falling from the sky,
drains all the way to and through Clarksville
and assists in the creation of the
aforementioned periodic flooding and water backups.
No injunction (whether entered by the Bat Blog Court or otherwise) will withstand an appeal in this instance -- Indiana law clearly authorizes the owner of lower lands to do whatever is necessary to protect itself from surface water drainage, even if there is adverse effect to the owner of adjacent higher lands. The Cane Run Pump Station improvements need to be constructed ...
DeleteCurmudgeon- However, Argyelan, supra, recognizes an exception to the common enemy doctrine.
Delete"Although Indiana doubtlessly would not permit a malicious or wanton employment of one's drainage rights under the common enemy doctrine, it appears that the only limitation upon such rights that we have thus far judicially recognized is that one may not collect or concentrate surface water and cast it, in a body, upon his neighbor."
Thus, you are incorrect to state, "the owner...is authorized to do whatever is necessary". There are limits. Further, it is not clear to me that the rights of a property owner necessarily are identical to the 'rights' of a municipal entity.
Looks like we have a legal eagle Anon.... Curmudgeon the balls in your court, do you have a response to Anon. ??? The judge is patiently awaiting your response ...
DeleteThe Town owns Colgate Park and the Parks Department building on Sherwood Avenue, both of which are adversely affected by the malfunctioning Cane Run Pump Station.
DeleteThe alternative stormwater separation project would not change the discharge point for Clarksville drainage (i.e., it would still end up in the Cane Run drainage basin but could not cause flooding by surcharging back into Clarksville), and more importantly would not direct any surface water drainage towards Jeffersonville.
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ReplyDeleteHavn't we all lived in the shadows of our old man our whole lives? ... I thought that's how life worked -- just glad with my luck of the draw ...
ReplyDeleteCanal Plan?
ReplyDeleteA sage said that "It appears that the actions by certain political power brokers is an attempt to bring back the old canal plan. Someone still wants
to force it to be built."
Hmmmm, something does smell very fishy...
Wonder who is behind still wanting to build the canal...?
The canal would have diverted a substantial percentage of the waters from Jeffersonville that surcharge from the FC pipe and flood properties in Clarksville when the river is above flood stage. It would have helped the situation, but it would not have eliminated the problem. Same can be said for the retention basin and combined sewer interceptor that the current administration promised, but which have yet to commence construction.
ReplyDeleteBat Blog Grim War Update
ReplyDeleteClarksville's situation looks grim, for sure....
Water has the audacity to flow from Pittsburg to flood it.
Jeffersonville is uphill.
Theatre X, WalMart, and the Carp fishing Industry are in jeopardy....
The Swamp is filling up.....
Several government agencies are concerned with violent flooding threats...
"Seal The Drains!" is being prepped for the new "Corporate Moto Mantra "
going onto Clarksville's flag and great seal...
The annual "May Day Celebration" and "Cultural Icon Sale"
held at Theatre X are in danger of not being held....
Grim, bro....
Bat Blog Breaking News!
ReplyDeleteIt looks like that the serious malady
that has infected the 'Clarksville Politicos'
has been identified by the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta!
It has been identified by the CDC
as the dreaded "Water Drains Downhill Derangement Syndrome"....
Fifer doesn't like Moore and will do anything to make him look bad. I'll bet he's staying up at night plotting this.
ReplyDeleteI harbor no ill will against the Mayor personally (in fact, I freely acknowledge I was appointed as County Attorney in 2009 only upon his invitation to apply and with his backing -- thankfully I don't have to do that job anymore). However, it is incumbent on the Mayor to now recognize that as chairman of Flood Control he wears more than one hat, and that the District has obligations to protect the owners of all properties located within it (including those in Clarksville).
DeleteROFLMAO I know for a fact they aren't on each others Christmas card list.
DeleteIt's a shame the good people of Clarksville are being used in this misguided fight. I've worked side by side with town board members "Red" Worrall and Tim Hauber, and know how dedicated those two are to fixing Clarksville's flooding problems. I've stopped listening to the rest of the town board and manager make ignorant treats. The Jeff-Clarksville Flood control district also understands and sympathizes with our neighbors and want to help. Living along the Ohio River poses challenges for us all. Hopefully the political posturing stops and the high dollar hourly paid lawyer takes a dose of Pepto-Bismol to control his oral diarrhea.
ReplyDeleteMike Moore
If lawyers and courts get involved in this the price to fix this will double. Clarksville needs to save time and money and just fix it. If it will stop flooding why wasn't this done years ago?
ReplyDeleteAnon. makes a good point dragging this into court undoubtedly will increase costs and possibly delay any solution to this dispute. The BatBlog wonders why if this is a feasible solution to the flooding problem that C'ville politicians just don't pony up the necessary funds, bite the bullet and fix the problem for the sake of their constituents. If Jeffersonville benefits so what, be a good neighbor and quit throwing out threats...
ReplyDeleteIf Clarksville has to fix this problem on its own (as it is fully prepared to do), it will do so by spending $1.5 million, not $5 million.
DeleteMaybe they could use the money they are planning giving to the Councilman Hauber family gun range and put towards the drainage issues ?
DeleteMoore didn't hire Fifer when he was elected mayor and Fifer can't get over it.
ReplyDeleteTHIS IS THE BEST THREAD EVER!
ReplyDeleteBruce Herdt is the Hoosier Taxpayer.
Greg Fifer has diarrhea of the mouth.
Mayor Moore doesn't put up with any bulls*it from bullies.
The canal is a great project. Wait no it's not.
Or is it?
Clarksville needs to put up or shut up or just take care of what needs taken care of.
The CDC is involved.
Theatre X is a target of retaliation.
Oh, and "a wise Sage once said..." has even been thrown out there.
Annnnnd don't forget the threated carp fishing industry!
What a read... You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried!
Yeah this may be the best ever...you left out Fifer insinuating our mayor is a "fool."
DeleteHT is outed ??? Debate over "Galligan's Gully" the canal...
Goliath dissing HT's possible Pultizer Prize for his coverage of the Democratic Caucus...
An Anon. legal eagle questioning Fifer's legal expertise...
An Anon. said Fifer "couldn't catch a parked ambulance"...
This thread has it all...Who will fire the next salvo ???
Next shooter...
ReplyDeleteThe Bat Blog rocks, for sure!
ReplyDeleteClarksville's Vital Carp Fishing Industry
ReplyDeletecould become decimated and land bound
if Jeffersonville's Navy sinks
their carp boat fleet.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvDF3vv6Dng
Wouldn't it make sense if moore thought fifer was a good attorney while representing him and the county that he would have brought him along to the city?
ReplyDelete